Thursday, March 26, 2009

It's Probably not for Sale, but

some folks are not "buying the Gurlesque," over at the fine Lemon Hound blog. Commence somewhat circuitous line of inquiry: This refutation seems to revolve around the idea that the subject position girl (or any grotesque performance thereof) cannot be occupied without demeaning or infantilizing oneself, and thus threatens, or perhaps offends, the feminist movement(s). Have I got that right?

Either way, I should point out that poets who work with the Gurlesque aesthetic do not all bank on girlhood or girl speakers. But yes plenty do, and plenty question whether or not the subject position woman/women ever escapes infantilizing cultural constructions (some day I'll draw the connection to "The Myth of the Vaginal Orgasm"). Perhaps this is where Joyelle McSweeney's comment about Gurlesque as "the rejection of empowerment" becomes pertinent. (Aside: I don't think anyone's ever suggested Joyelle herself writes Gurlesque poems.) (Aside: And I don't claim to speak for other Gurlesque poets--just about the aesthetic and the poets who employ its various tactics. 'Cause it's not a school or a movement--we do not, whoever we are, hang out and plan new lip-glossed-cattle-suited-grave-stinking-rat-fetus-femme-factories.)

Notably, a lot of these critiques suggest that Gurlesque won't, as Lemon Hound puts it, "bring us forward." I assume "us" is women or feminists and "forward" is closer to gender equality? I'm tempted to say that such critique relies on a reductive reading of the aesthetic and a dangerous notion about poetry's relationship to edification.

Another problem--I think critiques/critics need to distinguish between the various strains of theorizing Lara & Arielle do (which won't be available in full until the anthology's out), the burgeoning ideas Arielle's advanced up until this point, and the actual poems/poets identified as Gurlesque. When a person claims to be "bored" or "offended" by the Gurlesque, I'm never sure to whom or what she's referring. Heh heh, and some of the poets identified as Gurlesque have written poems explicitly intended to bore and offend, so then a positive review?

It's further strange to me when the critiques are made by those who provoke with the woman/dog or woman/monster parallel, who interrogate desire and violence, who identify as third-wave or po-mo-feminist, animate grotesque bodies, load their poems with small cuddly animals, and so on. What am I missing?

I'd also love to see some actual fem theory or feminist thinkers referenced if the value of Gurlesque as a feminist practice, a form of feminist poetics is going to be called into question...I've had the good fortune to bring Arielle & Lara to Wyoming, to bring the aesthetic in front of women's studies scholars, and it's met with excitement and interest. And perhaps some polite disinterest, of which I remain stubbornly unaware, but so far no one's suggested it's an offense to feminism, or likely to wreck the joint...and actually, the dissent among feminist poets is a point of interest. Which could yet use articulation, eh? So if anyone would like to spin it out further here or via e-mail or in a sequined placenta-dome, I'm game. And also quite interested in what Gurlesque's critics would view as positive or "forward" moving feminist poetics.

[Update: Lara dropped a note over at Lemon Hound, saying: "the Gurlesque is an entirely descriptive project, not proscriptive. In other words, Arielle and I are describing a set of aesthetic strategies/tendencies being engaged by a fairly disparate set of poets. We are not spearheading a movement or branding a product. I think the actual publication of the anthology (Spring 2010) will greatly clarify this." I think I've failed to articulate the descriptive/proscriptive difference as well as I should here, and am still considering what it might mean that these "tendencies" are being identified in such a broad range of so loosely, even un-connected poets...]

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Blogger Chien Bâtard said...

Hi there,
Just found your blog and will add it my role. Move "us" forward seems to be contentious, but I'm happy you've asked and will away and ponder upon my hesitations and post anon.

Meanwhile, I wish I had your book.

8:33 AM  
Blogger D said...

Hey, Chien,

Thanks for stopping by. And sweet of you to say about the book. I wish I had yours. Hey, if you would like to trade, you can backchannel me at dpafunda [at] yahooo [dot] com.

You mean I sound contentious re: "Move 'us' forward? Yes, maybe I do bristle rather more on that point...and I misquoted a bit--you say you don't buy gurlesque "as something that brings us forward in any way." Anyhow, the questions are sincere. I know it sounds a bit purposefully difficult to question what "forward" would be, but I find particularly re: feminist endeavors, we often assume agreement and then find out we're moving in different directions. Which I think/hope makes feminism a richer field...So, yes, thanks for considering all this!

yours,
D

1:29 PM  
Blogger D said...

Lara dropped a note over at Lemon Hound to say [italics mine] "the Gurlesque is an entirely descriptive project, not proscriptive. In other words, Arielle and I are describing a set of aesthetic strategies/tendencies being engaged by a fairly disparate set of poets. We are not spearheading a movement or branding a product. I think the actual publication of the anthology (Spring 2010) will greatly clarify this."

That's a point I think I've failed to articulate--not only is it an aesthetic, but one that's being defined via its manifestations in the work of a wide range of poets, not an aesthetic that Lara & Arielle & co. describe that poets then subscribe to. I'm sure at this point we could assign in workshop "write a Gurlesque" poem, but I imagine that the poets in the anthology would articulate their own projects in very different ways. Which makes the overlap in tactics all the more interesting, perhaps...Hmmm, that'd make a great forum for Delirious Hem. Where I'm going to be curating forums as of May. More info on that to come!

2:24 PM  
Blogger becca said...

Catching up on the gurlesque in blogland!

I think it may surprise some people to know that Arielle herself sat down to write her first deliberately gurlesque poem something like a year or two ago.

I mention this because I think it disrupts false ideas of the gurlesque as an exclusive club of password-inducted practitioners -- ideas put forth in some of the comment threads on other blogs.

And I guess I have to admit that it makes me sigh a little to see, on those blogs, comment threads full of women (so rare, so great!) tearing down other women's theories because they don't speak to their own girlhoods or current realities. Can't these ideas be valuable anyway? Why do people who don't relate to the gurlesque's CULTURAL references feel threatened by it as an AESTHETIC movement? Why the attacks and dismissals without counter-theories or even explanations?

I'm more interested in the gurlesque than any other contemporary aesthetic, but I don't label myself "a gurlesque poet." Those two facts seem easy for me to reconcile, so I'm trying to understand why poets are reacting to the gurlesque so personally (I'm really, truly trying to understand--tell me please!). I think this is dangerous territory: to feel that the gurlesque is prescribing flat, uncomplicated Hello-Kitty-girliness is completely to miss the point, and to pull the plug on the raft of the gurlesque, puffed-up as it is with irony and horror and humor. Reacting to the gurlesque in this way risks reinscribing the idea that Girl = Weak/Silly/Passive, which is EXACTLY the idea that the gurlesque blows up into an inflatable purple hippo and sends down the Lazy (Thinking) River.

Bottom line: The gurlesque isn't a) universal or universalizing, b) a cool kids' club, or c) promoting "girliness" in any simplistic way.

And -- I'm really excited for the anthology to come out so meatier debates can begin!

8:33 PM  
Blogger Kate Durbin said...

"...we do not, whoever we are, hang out and plan new lip-glossed-cattle-suited-grave-stinking-rat-fetus-femme-factories."

Amazing. And if you ever should, please make it the first Gurlesque conference (coven?). I think you'd be surprised at how many would be in attendance.

2:24 AM  
Blogger D said...

Ha! Thanks, Kate! Yeah, if someone did start a gurlesque, or otherwise grotesque feminist coven, I'd definitely show up for the fun.

And thanks, Bex, for your queries. I'm also confused about the response to the pop-culture associations Arielle has articulated--but maybe I'm misreading this line of critique...yes meatier debates. Meat debates!

yours,
Danielle

3:16 AM  
Blogger K. Lorraine Graham said...

I'm laughing because after I read this post, I was going to post a comment more or less identical to the one that I see Kate has already posted. So I'll just say ditto.

3:58 PM  

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